I've never thought about it. But if his one day is our 1,000 years, he probably got more accomplished than I did today
38 Years
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Did you leave for more than ONE major reason ?
by JH ini hear people say they left the org.
for this or that reason.. in your case, was there more than one reason why you left ?.
i left because there was a lack of true love towards me.
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I started researching because I had been very unhappy for years, hanging on by a thread. I sensed something was wrong with the organization, especially the GB. I researched the internet and read Crisis of Conscience. I was surprised at how many reasons I found to support my leaving.
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I got that dreaded call....
by loosie inmy ex sister in law called me this morning to tell me that bother had shot himself.. he was raised a witness but stopped going at 18. he was my favorite brother always level headed and smart.. except lately.
apparently he has been robbing banks in ca this summer.
he led the police on a freeway chase and decided to shot himself instead of go to jail.. now i am wondering how well i know anyone at all anymore.. .
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I'm so sorry.
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International Conventions
by stillajwexelder inso i am sure you will be thrilled to know that the international conventions in 2009 will be held in mexico, hawaii, south america (but did not say where exactly), austria and germany with other possibles and kenya - nairobi.
cost to europe is slated at 2500 dollars package but warned that other destinations will cost more.
the main requirement read in the letterwas "make sure you have the finances".
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Hey, are most of these still out in the hot sun?
That picture brings back so many bad memories. The hard chairs, cramped into the seats, getting umbrellas in the eye, plastic in the rain, it was torture.
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At what point did you stop being an idiot?
by Hiddenwindow inwere you always an open-minded jw?
did you ever think that another brother was an apostate because he asked a simple logical question?
the latter, of course, is the most natural reaction among most jws.
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I was always pretty open minded. I moved out of my parents home at 19, and took lots of comments from the elders. Eventually I went ahead and went to college no matter what kind of comments were made from elders and others. I knew where my boundaries were to keep out of the JC. There are some things that the elders just cant pin on you. There was no law against going to concerts, moving out of your parents home or going to college. They can make remarks, but they can't disfellowship you for it. But, I decided to stay in because of family. I was "spiritually weak" and very unhappy but I hung in there. It's been 5 years since I quit.
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Giving Talks in the Ministry School
by lovelylil inanyone else here hate giving talks and refuse to do it?
the last two years i was in the borg, i was not in the school.
everytime the elder in charge of it approached me to "encourage" me to join again, i would have a melt down, cry and pretend i was so depressed and overwelmed that i just could not do that one thing for "jehovah", and i would act like i may commit suicide if he stresses me out over joining the school again.. i got out of it with 3 elders, in two different congregations.
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At first, I would stay late at work and call the elder and tell him I had to work late so I couldn't give my talk. Then I used the working late excuse when I asked the elders to take me off the schedule. By this time, they were sick of my cancelling. It wasn't a very nice thing to do, but the way the elders were running the ministry school anyway, they deserved it if people quit. It felt great to get rid of those talks. I also was glad to get out of the householder part the week before. An added bonus was that I could skip more meetings.
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Do you ever get nausea when encountering JW stuff
by Sirona ini thought after 7 years out i had done a pretty good job of getting my mind free of the jws.. then yesterday i went on youtube and typed in jehovah's witness.
after watching a few apostate videos, i came across a pro-jw video of a convention.
as i started the video and they started singing "we thank you jehovah" i got a mega wave of nausea and felt like i had to switch the thing off.. has this happened to you?
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I just want to scream and run away. Having to listen to it from my Mom is painful. It's like poison or some kind of torture.
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Children at the meetings, how did you cope
by Mrs Smith inmy son was about 5 years old when we stopped going to the meetings.
the other day i asked him what he remembers about them (his now 14 years old).
he remembered the puzzles i bought him to play with during the meetings.. he remembered that i packed a sandwich and some juice for him to eat in case he got hungry.. when he got board i use to take him outside for a walk around the kh garden.
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You're supposed to make them sit still in the chair, paying attention. That was impossible for my little boy or any other child. I got all these suggestions, like giving them a magazine and have them circle "Jehovah" on each page or color the pictures. (Be sure to only let them use a pencil so the KH doesn't get pen or crayon marks on the chairs and carpet). Right, like that's going to keep children occupied for two hours. You can see and feel the judgemental attitudes about being a good JW based on how your children behave during the meetings. I have to admit, I buckled under the pressure and started using the wooden spoon in the ladies room. Sisters would smile at you because you were doing the right thing. "Train up a boy" was the favorite scripture. I wasn't proud of it at all and it made me sick that they never provided anything like Sunday School for the kids. They would rather laugh while you are taking your unruly child down the aisle, knowing he or she was going to get a spanking. So I started to stay home so I wouldn't have to put my son through it. When he got older, he got better at sitting. Then we'd get lots of compliments on how he sits and listens so well.
It wasn't until I went through it myself with my son that I finally understood why so many families in my past had stopped coming to the meetings. How are you supposed to teach a child to love God with all this going on?
When I quit, I apologized to my son for what I put him through. Fortunately, young children are very forgiving. He just told me that it was okay, I didn't know better.
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Hang in there and let us know how things are going.
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need info on this pic
by cultswatter ini am doing a report on this triangle but i need more info on this pic.
a scan of the full page would be nice (descreened tiff please) not a crappy jpeg.
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So who is this ugly posterized person supposed to be?